massiv
Sep 10, 09:28 PM
I think we all are getting caught up in the "core" crazy a little too much. I understand at a professional level the more cores the better. But Apple has delivered this target market its machine, the Mac Pro. I think the Mac Pro will see even more options in its configurations as time goes on, but I don't see them putting the next biggest and best chip in every product. After all, 90% of home computer users are using thier computers for basic functions and not heavy video or audio work, which means they don't need 4 cores. Apple is focusing on the digital lifestyle and this means they want to sell a customer hardware that will take care of this emerging market, like live streaming video rentals to their large screened LCD TV. I think the Mac Pro is the ever-expanding machine but look for huge price differences in its configs. An $800 difference in 2.66 to 3.0 GHz Xeon? All we do know is that Apple wants to rule the digital livingroom and probably is not concerned with bragging rights. But the obvious is true, there are some big steps ahead in processing power.
macjonny1
Apr 25, 12:56 PM
Well they arent going to get worse are they!!
Sure they can get worse. They can make them thinner and even worse at dissipating heat. Form over function.
Sure they can get worse. They can make them thinner and even worse at dissipating heat. Form over function.
r00fus
May 4, 12:21 PM
Wow, the dual screen output is what could some day push me over the edge. A 27" display + 2 27" Apple screens either side sounds pretty nice. Still not enough to make me part with my 30" ACD right now though.
You do realize you can do almost the same thing (not sure about resolutions) with USB2 displaylink adapters?
My lowly 2007 Santa Rosa MBP can handle this fine with one 22" monitor using the old EVGA UVPlus... I even run it over a hub that also does keyboard, mouse and iphone cradle. Slight delay, no stutter, nothing. videos play fine (never tried full screen, but it's my work computer, so no need for that).
You do realize you can do almost the same thing (not sure about resolutions) with USB2 displaylink adapters?
My lowly 2007 Santa Rosa MBP can handle this fine with one 22" monitor using the old EVGA UVPlus... I even run it over a hub that also does keyboard, mouse and iphone cradle. Slight delay, no stutter, nothing. videos play fine (never tried full screen, but it's my work computer, so no need for that).
HaiRy
Apr 25, 01:00 PM
Hilarious to all those people who jumped on the THUNDERBOLT bandwagon. No thunderbolt devices yet and they have the hideous old case design.
:rolleyes:
That's just idiotic. I upgraded from a 2006 MB to a 2011 15" i7, to say I'm satisfied is an understatement. Hideous it is not even near - I've played with the new designs before but nothing comes close to it sitting on your desk.
You're getting all pissy over something that's just a rumour and you don't even know if you're going to like it or not!
:rolleyes:
That's just idiotic. I upgraded from a 2006 MB to a 2011 15" i7, to say I'm satisfied is an understatement. Hideous it is not even near - I've played with the new designs before but nothing comes close to it sitting on your desk.
You're getting all pissy over something that's just a rumour and you don't even know if you're going to like it or not!
Mattie Num Nums
Apr 4, 12:35 PM
Try shooting a gun in real life while moving, adrenaline pumping, life on the line. Guarantee you that shot to the knee can accidentally turn into a head shot.
All of you people defending the robbers are the reason why we let child molesters, gang bangers, and drug dealers roam the streets. Put a bandaid on that bleeding heart already.
All of you people defending the robbers are the reason why we let child molesters, gang bangers, and drug dealers roam the streets. Put a bandaid on that bleeding heart already.
YEMandy
Sep 12, 03:30 PM
You can return or exchange it but you'll have to pay a 10% restock fee ($25 or $29 depending on which one you bought). If you bought the 30GB just stick with the "old" 5G. If you bought the 60GB version then $30 is worth the price for another 20GB of storage. But my question to you is, what were you thinking buying an iPod the night before an Apple Special Event focusing on "it's showtime?"
You can return ANY apple product for a FULL refund if the product was updated within 10 days of the original purchase date!! Or you can get money back if the price was lowered!
You can return ANY apple product for a FULL refund if the product was updated within 10 days of the original purchase date!! Or you can get money back if the price was lowered!
jonnysods
Apr 25, 01:14 PM
Sign me up!
I love the current design, but I'm always excited about the future.
I love the current design, but I'm always excited about the future.
Eidorian
Sep 9, 02:30 PM
That would be an OS issue, would it not? It would be up to the OS to allocate cores to processes.Yes an OS issue.
http://www.math.purdue.edu/~abarreno/affinitydlg.gif
http://www.math.purdue.edu/~abarreno/affinitydlg.gif
iScott428
Mar 29, 11:45 AM
Next thing the IDC will say is that if GM and Chrysler went into partnership, they might produce one good car. The only problem is that even if they do make a good phone or even great one, who the hell is going to buy it? After countless years of a terrible OS called Windows, who really wants to carry around a phone the same name on it? Not me ever, I dont care how good the phone is I would get an Android phone first, and then go with out a cell phone or resort to sign language to avoid needing a windows phone.
balamw
Sep 6, 12:08 AM
How big would a high quality feature length movie be?
And no, I havn't read all 6 pages of the posts, so sorry if it's been discussed.
Worth revisiting.
The raw uncompressed bitrate for 720p = 1280*720*24bpp*30fps/(1024*1024) = 633 Mbps for 1080i it's ~711 Mbps 320x240 it's more like 53 Mbps.
720p compressed in H.264 with 5.1 sound seems to work out to about 1100 MB for your typical 45 minute drama show (i.e. compressed down to ~3 Mbps). This compares to 200 MB for the same show from iTMS in 320x240 H.264 (700 kbps). Not bad when you consider that 720p has 12X as many pixels (1280/320=4, 720/240=3)
Basically your typical movie would be about 2GB.
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And no, I havn't read all 6 pages of the posts, so sorry if it's been discussed.
Worth revisiting.
The raw uncompressed bitrate for 720p = 1280*720*24bpp*30fps/(1024*1024) = 633 Mbps for 1080i it's ~711 Mbps 320x240 it's more like 53 Mbps.
720p compressed in H.264 with 5.1 sound seems to work out to about 1100 MB for your typical 45 minute drama show (i.e. compressed down to ~3 Mbps). This compares to 200 MB for the same show from iTMS in 320x240 H.264 (700 kbps). Not bad when you consider that 720p has 12X as many pixels (1280/320=4, 720/240=3)
Basically your typical movie would be about 2GB.
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AppliedVisual
Oct 27, 11:52 AM
I. Hate. Greenpeace. I've wasted seconds of my life 'listening' to them and its all rubbish.
http://www.apple.com/environment/
Exactly. Just a bunch of hippies with their own underlying political agendas. FWIW, Apple is no more or less green than any other PC company... Take that as you will, but considering the majority of their production/manufacturing operations are done in and by many of the same companies that PC makers such as HP, Dell, IBM, etc.. use, it's hard to point the finger at one company.
http://www.apple.com/environment/
Exactly. Just a bunch of hippies with their own underlying political agendas. FWIW, Apple is no more or less green than any other PC company... Take that as you will, but considering the majority of their production/manufacturing operations are done in and by many of the same companies that PC makers such as HP, Dell, IBM, etc.. use, it's hard to point the finger at one company.
EagerDragon
Sep 9, 03:06 PM
Well, wasn't the iMac G5 restricted to 2GB, yet it was a 64-bit processor? A 32-bit computer can take up to 4GB, but due to the hardware Apple was/is using, they can't even take this.
What i find odd is that it appears to allow 1 or 2GB in either slot, but no more than 3GB in total. That is obviously the maximum the board can take, but it would have made a little more sense to allow 2GB in each. This will not really effect it's ability to run 64-bit software, just restricts how much memory can be used. Remember that you have been able to get AMD systems with 64-bit processors for some time now. They won't take more than 4GB, but will allow you to run 64-bit OSes and Apps.
I'm hoping by the time I'm after an iMac, it will take at least 4GB, have Blu-Ray as an option, (although I may opt for standard Superdrive if it is an option and buy a Mac compatible external later), include bigger hard drives and stick to a similar price point to now.
I'm tempted by the 20" now, but am not buying yet and would want about 320-400GB in there for the same price, perhaps even 2GB RAM. I've got time to wait however.
I could be wrong but...I think Manic did hit it on the head. I think some of the hardware is still 32 bits. If the memory address leads are there for 3 Gigs then they are there to the max of 4 Gigs, above that is anyones guess. Yes it is very strange since either slot can take the 2 gig chip.
Obviously the Mac Pro does not have that issue.
What i find odd is that it appears to allow 1 or 2GB in either slot, but no more than 3GB in total. That is obviously the maximum the board can take, but it would have made a little more sense to allow 2GB in each. This will not really effect it's ability to run 64-bit software, just restricts how much memory can be used. Remember that you have been able to get AMD systems with 64-bit processors for some time now. They won't take more than 4GB, but will allow you to run 64-bit OSes and Apps.
I'm hoping by the time I'm after an iMac, it will take at least 4GB, have Blu-Ray as an option, (although I may opt for standard Superdrive if it is an option and buy a Mac compatible external later), include bigger hard drives and stick to a similar price point to now.
I'm tempted by the 20" now, but am not buying yet and would want about 320-400GB in there for the same price, perhaps even 2GB RAM. I've got time to wait however.
I could be wrong but...I think Manic did hit it on the head. I think some of the hardware is still 32 bits. If the memory address leads are there for 3 Gigs then they are there to the max of 4 Gigs, above that is anyones guess. Yes it is very strange since either slot can take the 2 gig chip.
Obviously the Mac Pro does not have that issue.
puckhead193
Sep 19, 01:34 PM
I wonder if these people are buying one to "test it out" or are buying multiple movies.
Pravius
Apr 22, 09:50 AM
LMAO...are you serious? You find another carrier in the US that has unlimited data and has the iPhone?. Don't say Verizon because Verizon has already stated the unlimited plans were TEMP and only to draw in new customers at the launch of their iPhone. They made clear, those plans will be going away.
That statement is pure speculation and I have not seen that anywhere *official*. Until it actually happens, it hasn't happened.
That statement is pure speculation and I have not seen that anywhere *official*. Until it actually happens, it hasn't happened.
Auax
Apr 11, 09:50 PM
In fact, i hope one day i can use it to stream video. possible?
siii
Apr 4, 12:07 PM
Only in America.... Bad form unless it was in defence. How about non lethal take downs, fair courts and appropriate justice, such as jail with community service, get criminals doing something constructive for society and trying to get them back on track?
The right to carry guns and to kill absolutely baffles me. Surely shooting and killing is a worser crime than stealing? The threat of being shot/killed sounds too authoritarian/totalitarian for me.
I can't believe the mentality of people on these forums sometimes! Each to their own I guess... Democracy and all...
The right to carry guns and to kill absolutely baffles me. Surely shooting and killing is a worser crime than stealing? The threat of being shot/killed sounds too authoritarian/totalitarian for me.
I can't believe the mentality of people on these forums sometimes! Each to their own I guess... Democracy and all...
Gem�tlichkeit
Apr 20, 01:22 PM
Wasn't this the same info they told us about when they were collecting signal information?
Location and signal strength.
Location and signal strength.
gooddeal
Apr 19, 08:31 AM
Great! Now, we have Chinese knock off and Korean knock off.:o
Plymouthbreezer
Sep 12, 05:23 PM
Decent update. Good new features.
I just wish the upped the 30GB to 40GB and kept the price the same.
I just wish the upped the 30GB to 40GB and kept the price the same.
wizard
Sep 9, 11:04 AM
I see no reason why the new C2D iMacs can't run 64 bit code. Heck I've had a AMD 64 running Linux fro a couple of years now and it runs 64 bit code fine on 1 Gig or RAM. The 64 bit instructions are not part of the addressing scheme for the most part.
Now how well an application will run addressing more that 2 Gig of ram on these machines is another question. In part it will depend on how well virtual memory works. Performance wise it is always best to have all data in RAM, there is little doubt there, so you would not want to run large databases on a 64 bit machine with limited memory on a daily basis. It is simply a poor way to leverage the hardware. However not all 64 bit applications are data bound so one can still make serious use of the 64 bit capabilities.
The system is no more a hybrid than older machines of days pass that had 32 bit processors and could only address a small fraction of the available address space. All of the above being said though Apple is the one that writes the OS and they ultimately determine the capabilities on any one platform. I can't see them not enabling 64 bit when it is ready.
Dave
The fact that the new iMacs can't address more than 3Gb of memory and are therefore operating on a 32bit logic-board makes me doubtful as to whether or not these systems are really 64-bit capable... It seems like some kind of hybrid 32/64bit system.
Will the C2D iMacs be able to run 64bit code, despite not having the 64bit address space (and being able to access over 4Gb or RAM)?
Now how well an application will run addressing more that 2 Gig of ram on these machines is another question. In part it will depend on how well virtual memory works. Performance wise it is always best to have all data in RAM, there is little doubt there, so you would not want to run large databases on a 64 bit machine with limited memory on a daily basis. It is simply a poor way to leverage the hardware. However not all 64 bit applications are data bound so one can still make serious use of the 64 bit capabilities.
The system is no more a hybrid than older machines of days pass that had 32 bit processors and could only address a small fraction of the available address space. All of the above being said though Apple is the one that writes the OS and they ultimately determine the capabilities on any one platform. I can't see them not enabling 64 bit when it is ready.
Dave
The fact that the new iMacs can't address more than 3Gb of memory and are therefore operating on a 32bit logic-board makes me doubtful as to whether or not these systems are really 64-bit capable... It seems like some kind of hybrid 32/64bit system.
Will the C2D iMacs be able to run 64bit code, despite not having the 64bit address space (and being able to access over 4Gb or RAM)?
FleurDuMal
Sep 14, 08:56 AM
OH NO, don't say that. Now we'll be inundated with 600 posts of "I want a mid tower Mac, headless, for $1200.00"
Whoops. Although I'd love to see a mid-tower Mac, I don't think it'll happen. Ever.
Perhaps we'll see a genuine Photoshop competitor? A proper editing suite of some sort (either that, or real editing functions integrated into Aperture)?
OK, now I'm just clutching at straws :o .
Whoops. Although I'd love to see a mid-tower Mac, I don't think it'll happen. Ever.
Perhaps we'll see a genuine Photoshop competitor? A proper editing suite of some sort (either that, or real editing functions integrated into Aperture)?
OK, now I'm just clutching at straws :o .
w00master
Nov 13, 02:42 PM
Obviously the images are copyrighted by Apple, and those images they don't want people using. Ok, well, that is their rights, they designed them and copyrighted them. Either they have to license those images from Apple (which I doubt Apple would do) or make their own. Just like every other copyright, you don't have the right to breech. If Apple doesn't defend their copyright, then they can lose it, so they HAVE to fight for it.
Again... you clearly did not read the developer's side.
Btw, those "copyrighted images?" Programmers use them all the time on OS X. Why? Because THEY'RE FROM OS X APIs.
w00master
Again... you clearly did not read the developer's side.
Btw, those "copyrighted images?" Programmers use them all the time on OS X. Why? Because THEY'RE FROM OS X APIs.
w00master
z4n3
Apr 20, 10:56 AM
I do not seem to have this file! :D
guess there are some users that are safe....
guess there are some users that are safe....
cwt1nospam
Mar 20, 04:38 PM
Is there some reason you feel the need lash out at people?
Only at shills, and I hardly consider them people.
You seem to be utterly oblivious to the whole point of the message which is that OSX is not invulnerable by any means, which seems to be the fanboy mantra of the week.
You seem to be intent on ignoring the fact that whatever vulnerabilities exist in OS X, antivirus software does nothing to reduce them and can actually add new vulnerabilities. There's only one reason I can think of for taking that stance, and that is that you're income depends on it.
Only at shills, and I hardly consider them people.
You seem to be utterly oblivious to the whole point of the message which is that OSX is not invulnerable by any means, which seems to be the fanboy mantra of the week.
You seem to be intent on ignoring the fact that whatever vulnerabilities exist in OS X, antivirus software does nothing to reduce them and can actually add new vulnerabilities. There's only one reason I can think of for taking that stance, and that is that you're income depends on it.